790 Military Trail, Scarborough, ON M1E 5K4, Canada
Formerly known as the Fossil & Haggis enjoy a fresh new feel with Zak's Bar and Grill. The first impression you will have is that you are in the right place to enjoy some amazing food with a variety of beers on tap. Zak's is a local restaurant located in Scarborough! Feel free to drop by and try something tasty, and out-of-this-world! Enjoy Karaoke, a game of pool and live sports!
I have ordered fish and chips take out on Uber eats from here twice now. No complaints. They have buy one get one and it’s under $30 for two big meals. It’s not gourmet by any means but it’s good fried food at a good price. Exactly what I was hoping for.
I went recently for the Friday karaoke. Had a great time! I haven't had the food but from what I saw it looked delicious. I will try it. I think another server was required for the floor. The atmosphere was very welcoming and the seating is comfortable. I will definitely retuning.
I walked in around 10 pm, ON A TUESDAY (TODAY) PLACED ORDER FOR 2LB WINGS, CALAMARI AND MOLSON 32 HORSE PICTURE. MOLSON DOESN'T TASTE GOOD I WOULD RATE : 2/5 WINGS WAS OK !! HONEY GARLIC DRESSING 4/5 BBQ DRESSING 3/5 Overall 3 /5 i would recommend. I could complete the drink just because it tasted so bad.
"I recently visited Zak's Bar and Grill and had a fantastic experience. The atmosphere was lively yet relaxed, perfect for catching up with friends. The bartender made a fantastic drinks.The food was a highlight—definitely try the BBQ ribs.The live music added a nice touch to the evening. I'll definitely be coming back!"
the boss is the only one serving and doesn’t show up very often, he charged me extra for pop (students get pop for free for take out only) poor communication.
My first and last time buying food from this restaurant! I ordered 2 pastas with a side of garlic bread. The pasta was very dry and had little to NO SAUCE. The chicken absolutely was not fully cooked! It was the WORST meal I have ever bought from a restaurant. The ends of the toast were burnt and had little to no butter on the bread. . . I definitely would not recommend this restaurant, the food is absolute trash! Save your money and your time and dine somewhere else! I was absolutely disappointed!
Used to come here when it was Fossils and Haggis, came back again while I was in town for sentimentality reasons and while the vibe is different the food is still good. Wings were a 10/10 for me
Absolute garbage! This place has only been here a couple of years, and it's infinitely worse than the pub "Fossil & Haggus" that was there before it Service was horrible! It took like 40 minutes to get our food, despite the place not being busy at all! Server was the only one there and barely attended our table when we needed anything. In terms of the food, the pizza tasted like @#$%&!) !!!!!!!! It was disgusting, I would NEVER EVER recommend it. Please avoid this place!
The food I have ordered was not medium rare at first. After kindly asking it to be cooked more, the bartender burnt the food. I wouldn t expect it
Parking: Good place to go and watch sports and play pool. Food
Best burgers in the city
Too many stories.... Lolol! Come and help make some new ones! Food : 4/5
2 Coronas reasonable price. Service was decent. Pretty dark joint
I m a DoorDash driver who went to pick up an order that I got a text message for, stating that the order was ready for pickup. I get there & I tell her I m here for a DoorDash order, she says there s no order, right away, without even checking. The INCOMPETENT bartender goes in the back for about 4 minutes just to tell me that the order wasn t ready, I asked the RUDE lady how long she s taking her SWEEET time out of spite before she goes to the back to ask the kitchen. I asked her how come it says it s ready for pickup, she s says it s automatic & it s not, someone in the kitchen selected that it was in fact ready for pickup. I called DoorDash support & they contacted them twice, & got no answer & DoorDash support confirmed that they would ve had to select that it was in fact ready for pickup. They don t know what they are doing. They should be terminated as a merchant of DoorDash. They are unprofessional & rude!!!! I d give them zero stars if I could. I m not surprised they have such a poor rating.
Really good food
Pizza doesnt taste good, not even finished hair on the pizza and drink came after eating. Best regards Parking: Very bad location
I have had only good experiances at this restaurant. Either in person or on Uber Eats i recommend this establishment
Great service. Peaceful atmosphere.
I ordered through Uber eats last night and it was the best food I ve had in a while. The chicken wings felt like I was back in time with the amount of meats and size of the wings. The crisp was perfect. Amazing prices!
I ordered pitchered beer from here and from the first sip I told the owner/waiter that it doesn t taste right, they said they switched the new keg this morning and he didn t take it seriously. We showed the person who checks the gas and once we ordered the second one it tasted the same. The beer was not carbonated and it tasted so bad and the worst part was that he was denying the fact that beer was bad but he also called in someone to fix it after we complained. If he had been honest with us I wouldn t have wrote this review but he had been lying to us the whole time. The second pitcher was left in the store because of how bad it was.
For the food, they didnt give me what I ordered so i couldnt eat
Great experience
Zaks Bar and Grill is a standout destination for anyone seeking a perfect blend of delicious food, entertainment, and a welcoming atmosphere. Situated conveniently, this establishment offers an experience that goes beyond just dining, making it an ideal spot for both casual get-togethers and lively nights out. The wings at Zaks are nothing short of spectacular. Perfectly cooked to achieve a crispy exterior while maintaining tender, juicy meat inside, these wings are a highlight of the menu. They come in a variety of flavors, from classic buffalo and tangy barbecue to more adventurous options like spicy garlic parmesan. Each flavor is well-crafted, ensuring that theres something to satisfy every palate. The balance of heat and flavor in their spicy options is particularly commendable, providing a kick without overwhelming the taste buds. The menu at Zaks is a testament to authenticity and quality. Each dish is thoughtfully prepared using fresh, high-quality ingredients, ensuring a consistently delicious experience. Beyond the wings, the menu features a range of mouth-watering options, including hearty burgers, flavorful sandwiches, and fresh salads. The attention to detail in the preparation and presentation of each dish reflects the care and passion that the kitchen staff puts into their work. Adding to the charm of Zaks Bar and Grill is the fantastic area dedicated to playing pool. This space is well-maintained and offers a great way to unwind and have fun with friends. Whether youre a seasoned player or just looking to enjoy a casual game, the pool area provides a relaxed and enjoyable atmosphere that complements the overall vibe of the bar and grill. The staff at Zaks further enhance the experience with their friendly and attentive service. They are always ready with a smile and eager to make recommendations, ensuring that every visit feels personalized and enjoyable. In summary, Zaks Bar and Grill excels in delivering delicious, authentic food and providing a lively, enjoyable atmosphere. The combination of their exceptional wings, diverse menu, and inviting pool area makes it a must-visit spot for a memorable dining and entertainment experience.
There is no 0 star option , so I m giving one star, definitely not a good place for decent people. Some junk people roaming around the bar , they ask for drinks and food for free that you ordered , and threatens if we ignore them , altogether terrible experience.
A bit dark and loud, so we have to opt for take out
The deals are worth every penny in person. The best wings. Uber eats deals with them are a totally different story. I wouldnt order delivery.
I was pleasantly surprised this place. There is an amazing array of options on the menu, flawless service, and an ideal atmosphere. This location is fantastic for any occasion, whether its a special night out or not. I am forward to come back and indulge in more delicious food! Parking: 40
Parking: Nice Food
Food was disappointing. The service took long and the owner is incredibly rude.
Super chill vibe and vibes only!!
Specifically pool table at cheap cost and drinks
I ve been coming here for Years. Excellent location, Excellent food, Excellent pricing. There are two pool tables to keep yourself entertained alongside several big screen TVs for games. Everyone is Social and Friendly.
Dirty taps that made my entire group sick. Service isn t very friendly either
We play pool here great atmosphere and kind people
Wings were small but tasty
Decided to order 4lbs of wings to try out different flavours with my partner. I had had the wings before and so knew they werent the biggest/of the highway quality, but was willing to get them again for the flavours (theyre yummy enough) and price. We both agreed we did not get a full pound of any flavour , maybe a maximum of 6 tiny wings per flavour. The flavours are decent; we ordered Bourbon, Honey Garlic, Dry Cajun Rub, and Guiness. Our favourites were the HG and Guiness. Overall, I do miss Fossil & Haggis but this is an okay local bar to have. Food is okay. I havent been inside but our takeout service was good :)
Ordered bogo souvlaki wraps from uber eats and neither came with a side salad. The wrap was just frozen grilled chicken with lettuce and salad dressing (I hope you dont like tzatziki because you wont get it) and the child sized handfull of fries were cold. Definitely not worth 16.99$. Huge bummer.
This is the first I notice nacho without cheese
Friendly staff and an enjoyable karaoke experience.
In Scarborough looking for a great karaoke joint? Friday and Saturday from 9 pm-1 am. This is the place, everyone was so welcoming. The people there were regulars. The karaoke hostess was amazing. Anything you want to perform was found and waiting for you. It was a fun ending to a beautiful day.
Wheelchair accessibility: Good food servers
Myself, my dad, and my mom all got food poisoning from here. Order food from somewhere else
service was horrible. Very rude. If I could give 0 stars I would. We bought food then got kicked out for taking pictures. We were very calm and understanding. A man came out of the kitchen and yelled at us, threatening to call the cops for taking pictures when we were paying customers and there werent any signs or warning saying not to do so.
Ordered off Uber eats of buy one get one free of the fish and chips. My chips were soggy. My gravy was cold and my fish didn t look all the way cook through. Also, it comes in a huge container but the portions are very small. It was my first time ordering from here sometimes little dive bars have really good food, but this was a no big no!! Save your money order Popeyes lol
Wings were half off the bone small & BURNT. Garlic bread was also burnt and tasteless. Don t go there Food
Great value and friendly staff well worth a visit. Pool table too.
I ordered the spinach dip off of Uber Eats. It was absolutely disgusting. Very watery, no taste and came cold. No cheese which it was supposed to have. You should be ashamed to serve that to customers!!
Got delivery and the food just utterly terrible. Got pizza and the souvlaki wrap. Pizza was so overcooked to the point it was a biscuit. The chicken in the souvlaki wrap was also overcooked beyond eatable measures. Should just stick to the bar component, as you guys cannot make quality food.
I ordered a steak and pasta and the pasta tastes so bad like burnt old cooking oil and it s a 2 for 1 on uber eats so i m stuck sigh two and the steak i ordered medium rare but it s just red inside like bloody rare the peppercorn gravy is lottery gravy with big peppercorns that just kill the flavour of the already bad food. Overall very disappointing and will not order from again.
Ordered two chicken souvlaki meal boxes. Threw 1 and a half. Disgusting foof
Zak s (nèe Fossil and Haggis) will forever live in my heart. this is required pilgrimage for any UTSC student who has failed an exam or handed something in at 12:01. since becoming Zak s, nothing has really changed. the food is just as bad, the vibes are just as immaculate, and you can find any noteworthy toronto sporting match on screen at any given moment (if not, just ask). There is one glaring difference I ve spotted in the last year. Something like a mild ache that won t go away piercing your lower back. The music volume. It s just barely too loud to possibly be enjoyable to anyone who hasn t suffered hearing loss already. Please, for the love of god, you can keep the music loud, it s a bar after all, but just like 3 notches down. I think everyone is too afraid to ask at risk of angering the regulars who absolutely love controlling the jukebox and playing 70s rock hits instead of Drake or smth normal. Again, I don t mind, but please for gods sake just turn it down a little. Also shoutout the regular waitress/bar keeper. You rock.
An okay place to stop for lunch that is very close to UTSC.
I hate leaving bad reviews, but after reading the other reviews on quality of food over the course of a year and they have still not improved it shows that the owner could care less if customers return. I ordered 4 chicken souvlaki off uber eats. I didnt wait long for the food to be prepared and delivered. My orders were wrong. The food was like fridge cold our family had to microwave the food. The chicken was over cooked, rice was not good ( had to put a ton of soy sauce on it) we got potatoes when we asked for fries, the potatoes were very cold and had a weird coating on them. Taste was not good. Well, to be honest we all ended up throwing our food out. Only ate our salads. Times are expensive, so when I decide to order for the family I expect to enjoy the food. This was unfortunate. Will not be ordering from here again.
I had an incredible evening recently, and I have nothing but appreciation for it. With a wide variety of delectable foods, the menu is a gourmet feast. The bartenders are genuine artisans, and the array of bars is astounding. The wonderful service which is kind, considerate, and informed is what makes this restaurant stand out. Its the place to go for an unforgettable night out because of the ideal atmosphere for every occasion. Zaks Bar and Grill is the place to go if you want an excellent eating experience!
I went there after a couple of years. Size reduced to almost half. 2 Pool tables are pathetic. Extremely dirty, table cloth torn. Food is okay. Service is good for that small place. Used to be F&G (still printed on the glass outside)
I love Supriya and Zaks Grill. HOWEVER, they just must bring in some German beers
Good food. Very nice staff, and good beer prices
Delicious food and friendly staff
Been going there for years and never had any food I didnt like, Wings are the best around and wine prices are great, music and service is also great
Bhav is the best!
Excellent food at a decent price Staff are super friendly and helpful I eat here 3 to 4 times a week
Great tunes and food
Good beer prices
Went from having an amazing experience, best wings ever, biggest too, to the worst smallest wings in Scarborough. Never again. What happened?
Food is not great but service and atmosphere were great!
Has pool tables and good wings
Ordered UBER eats from here. 2 Souvlaki Wraps with Salad & Fries. Was Missing Both sets of salad & fries & chicken in wrap was extremely burnt. We also ordered 2 orders of the Beer Battered onions rings. Was not Beer Batter & both orders were burnt black. Can snap them in half. Called the restaurant & got no answer. Do NOT waste your money!!!!
Burnt food .. who can send out food that looks like that? Waste of money.
Order through Uber, chicken souvlaki wrap. Chicken were overcooked to burned, tasted bitter, too salty, and sour, mixed of a lot of flavor but not well blended and cooked
Never again for food. Definitely not trained cooks. Most food was overdone. Sour cream runs like wet paint. So not worth the money or the upset stomach. Its a shame as before the change from fossil and haggis, the food was half decent.
Great food, very friendly staff
Never had a bad experience till today. Cmon guys. Edit: there was a huge hair in my blue cheese tried to add a pic but didn t work. But the foods bussin
Don t honour their menu descriptions - ordered chicken souvlaki sandwiches that clearly slates comes with fries and salad and was only sent sandwiches. When I called to let them k ow if the error - they insinuated it was my fault that I didn t ask for a platter even though the price for the description clearly stated fries and salad. I have them benefit of the doubt but turns out they deliberately scammed me. Will never order from them again. Oh and the sandwiches were terrible - gristly chicken not much of it and no Tzatziki - blah
We were a group of five and the food took over 45 minutes, for just the appetizers alone. The night wasn t very busy either, so there really aren t many excuses for the extremely slow service
They always give me unfresh chicken
Its the people that make the place. Great servers; friendly, fun atmosphere.
The amount of tzaziki sauce that came with my calamari is ridiculous. See pics. The menu stated that the souvlaki wraps comes with salad n fries and got nothing. I tried to resolve this issue within the restaurant but all the lady would say is to contact Uber eats. This issue is caused by the kitchen staff, not Uber eats. This is appalling.
I am an old patron of Fossil & Haggis. I have visited here again recently 4 times and the most recent visit was the most disappointing. They have always had jumbo wings and those jumbo wing were what made me want to go back. However, they seemed to no longer carry jumbo wings. Now I am wondering what else has changed with the place in their menu. COVID may have taken a toll on the business, but it is not at all like how it used to be.
I remembered when this place was called Fossil & Haggis. Now its half the size. They removed the upper part where they kept the billiard pools. The food is okay, but the wings need to be improved!!! I ate some of their wings a couple of times. They used to be really good, but now they look like Chinese take-out wings! A couple of weeks ago, I had a drink there. They dont have all the beer brands they display (probably because of the Covid lockdown) and they charge too much!! After I was done drinking, I looked at the glass and it wasnt properly cleaned! It used to be so great now its gone downhill. The staff is nice and I hope they improve the place!!
Cool spot decent service
Friendly staff
Clean friendly great staff. Food is good. This is my local bar
Come for beer and wings. Nothing else or you will be disappointed.
2lb of wings didnt seems like 2 pounds. Burnt chicken on poutine
We ordered chicken poutine.. it was burned and taste so bad & 2lb chicken was too tiny and not much quantity. Not satisfied
Burned chicken and too small chicken wings
Great food and beer. Thanks for everything!!!!
Perfect with the ambience,food,drinks especially service , Kate was absolutely brilliant with her skills and communication..it s my first visit and she helped me understand things well and Gonna definitely be coming here evry week for sure ..keep rocking guys
Good ambiance and Kate gave excellent service!!!!!! Recommended
Not the prettiest place, but the staff is very friendly and the drinks are cheap. The wings are pretty good and my recommendation.
I found this place on ubereats one night while browsing for a cheap meal deal cause yall know uber be robbing us blind, anyways they had a buy one get one free, so I ordered chicken fingers and fries, so thats 2 meal for 20 bucks not bad at all. Now lets get into the meal, the chicken fingers were more of a burnt color not the usual golden brown you expect from fried chicken parts, whatever they used to coat the chicken was super thick and grainy so I was essentially eating fried batter, the first and last bite was accompanied by a gush of oil . The fries tasted like old oil. I didnt even think it was possible to ruin chicken fingers, I guess I learned nothing is impossible. Bottom line food is horrible order at your own risk
Overall I felt like the place was nice. The service was amazing as well and very fast and thoughtful. Thank you for having me here
Dont know why they call this salad.. Ordered soup and they just ignored But the beef was okay so 2 stars
Worst place ever ordered uber eats 2 for 1 souvlaki...asked for tzitzki sauce it was dry no sauce it says comes with fries and salad none was delivered when I called they said I should have chose the platter it was burnt and tastekess avoid ordering from here should have read the review first soooo diappointed
The lady on the floor acting like she doesnt see us, And does not even bother asking what we want, Not even busy, Very Bad Customer Service we wait for like 15mns again and just trying herself to keep busy
Ive never been here in person, but they do great stuff for delivery! Get the apple pie, its absolutely delicious, and the large nachos are very large (prob feeds 4 people!)
Maddison the bar tender was amazing
Ordered late night delivery: Fish and Chips. Fries were very crispy, fish was a good portion. Would definitely order again, good stuff!
Parking: I personally have not and would not spend time here, this place I wouldnt say is good for any child to be in with the people who are either regulars or just pop in that go to thisbplace(no matter how friendly they may act) this place is part of the problem in my life. They may have decent or good food and Id say is a young adult crowd and the never wanting to grow up crowd as well as the people who contribute to the rise in addiction in toronto/Scarborough. My own fiance/exchange who seems to frequent this place when he gets chance doesnt make me happy at all and hasnt helped his array of issues either .... showing me that the lowere level social life is much more important then me or his new son and when trying to call this location to try and reach anyone to find out if someone you love or care for is there, then never pick up or atleast not when Ive called and theres no way a bar and gril is TO BUSY to have not one person to pick up the phone. Not to mention the violence Ive not been whiteness to but brave herd full well what can and has transpired here and does nothing to make sure that these thing or types of people stop coming or be barred (in some cases) for (a better array of patrons) others satety and (in other cases) for their own good showing that they care for the locals (or the bones to perposly travel to get here) lives and health matter more then their bottom line (making money), but dont and can use my (at one time) other half to our whole as an example. Someone who desperately needs help but no one really giving a hoot and him only getting worse and worse by the day/week/mth/year and is leading me to selling my wedding dress that has never and now more then likely will never be worn to such an occasion. Places like these are pretty much enablers for the less stronger group and promoters of those who like to provide what alot need to steer clear from but again those two the location and the providers are like two peas in a pod just wanting to increase their bottom line (profit margines) they dont care how or why but just that it is/does. Simply not a place I personally would spend more then 5 minutes OUTSIDE never mind the walk in and walk out if Id clever recall being on the walk way just out front. Its upsetting because this guy was my bubble my Potter cloak my clear quartz crystal my guy version of Bella Cullen.. just that one person that some how made it like everything else around didnt exist all that not so good stuff to thebworst ofnthebworst wouldnt faze out and disappear even just for the time I was with him that was enough for me and had never had that in my life before but had it all ripped away from me by other needs and ots dont nothing but break my heart time and time again. So, is it a bit defective to blame it on a location rather then the person sure but by no means am I putting all the blame on the establishment BUT .... it IS the establishment that chooses who to or when to allow people in and i worked in a bar thebowners and staff ALWAYS know whats going on under other peoples noses thats why when you want tonknow something YOU ALWAYS go to talk to the more flexible staff memeber if your nice or work enough charm into it you can get anything out of a bartender especially for the bright price lol although there are a fair amount that do dear but as far as the masses are concerned ... theur the 3 monkeys hear see and speak no evil... Lets just say, This location just isnt my cup of tea
Excellent service....great food... Definitely coming back
Great bar. Guiness was fresh. Wings were hot and tasty!
Good wings.. Thats it
The worst customer service. The owner was very unprofessional. I would not recommend anyone this sketchy place. The food was very disappointing and the owner was very rude. We ended up leaving the place after paying for the food and service.
Went to this place today. Got very disappointed. The way they serve their customers is very bad and rude.!
I feel bad for the employees. The worst management and even worse food. DO NOT GO HERE. I just saved you some time and money. Thank me later.
Missing items.
Very good chill spot.
Karaoke on Friday & Saturday nights from 9pm until 1am. The crowd is mostly English speaking. They have some good dark beers on tap. Parking: Plenty of parking with access to the lot from both Military Trail and Morningside.
Amazing experience and outstanding service.
Only ate from uber. I always do the buy one, get one. My go to is the fish n chips. Always happy and yummy. I love their tartar sauce
Came here for lunch, the food was delicious. I am not sure where the bad reviews are coming from, but glad I didn t pay attention to them. The place was very clean and service was great! Food was hot and tasty, and presentation was fantastic. Thanks Zaks!
Good place for snack...kind staff and good music.
dirty and full of flies
Great, fun location! This place may seem like it is a dark, boring bar, but its not. You can meet some interesting people here, they offer pool, and their staff is very friendly and helpful (the bartender moved all our stuff for us to a table closer to the pool tables). Also, we went for the chicken wings, and wow they were absolutely flavourful and lovely (not the crunchy type, but very well made), also they have lovely specials for wings and beer. We went on a Sunday night and it wasnt crowded at all. Definitely a place to go check out if you want a night out, their open late, so enjoy
Orderd a club sandwich and this is what we got. Half cut bread, with 3 chucks of chickens, and 2 pieces of lettuce, just dumped in the container, with no tooth pick or dressing and tomato
good spot for playing pool and getting a bite to eat
We ordered chicken souvlakis wrap - $16.99 buy one get one free through Ubereat last night. The container is very big. But the restaurant only served us a small chicken souvlakis wrap and small portion of fries on both orders, No garden salad on both orders at all. Very disappointed. We complainted to Ubereat. We didnt get refund . Why? This is not our false! We wont pay $16.99 for this order. This was a false advertising ! Cheating to the customers! Not worth the money. Dont try. You will be regret.
Good service
Garbage experience. Messed up the order, missing items, charged for a platters received the saddest souvlaki wrap in existence. The ingredients are clearly the lowest quality grocery store cooked presliced chicken and presliced salad. These people make Aramark look fancy. 0/10, reconsider your business plan and why you are even in this industry. God help anyone who orders from here.
Very disappointing. Very slow service. Pizza was grocery store bought. Sofa drink refills are not free. Don t tell you this up front.
GOOD ENVIRONMENT TO SPEND A NICE TIME
Good pool table and nice snacks
A decade ago, I went looking for a place that served killer chicken wings and most of the foodie sites recommended the Fossil & Haggis. My friends and I went there and discovered that the rest of the menu was equally tasty, especially their home-made soups. The brews were fresh, and the waitresses both remembered what we d ordered the last time and were able to share a laugh. It became our go-to place, where we d have a couple appetisers, split a pitcher over an afternoon s conversation, and close with dinner. A great way to spend a wintery Saturday. Then covid happened and everything shut down. For months. Restaurants started closing, including the Fossil & Haggis. Another place gone. Then Zak s Bar and Grill surfaced at the old location. I checked the online menu. It looked remarkably the same (OK, the 60 oz burgers were gone but that was only a typo anyway). And the photographs showed the place cleaned up . A lot of the soccer tat was gone but the classic UK beer advertizing was still up. So, we gave it a try. We were still crossing the parking lot when the waitress recognized us. The soups were still available (had their killer bacon & potato). The brews were cold and fresh. The wings were still the best in town. And the menu has a a whole bunch of new typos. Change of name but everything great remains. Just don t sit in the booth in the East Room beside the door. That s our favourite table on Saturdays, because we ll be back.
Fantastic service waitress Joe great delicious food.Excellent quantity.
Bad customer service horrible bad food
Horrible customer service
Bad customer service horrible food
Food was ok but the customer service was horrendous!
The dude in the pink hair was mad rude. He an opp kick him out of your employ List